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Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 21 Aug 2019, 18:36
by cosmoxl
sethx44 wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 18:20
cosmoxl wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 15:11
I wouldn't count on a new beta fixing it. All other apps seem to work just fine still. MrMC seems to be the problem.
infuse with the identical problem
Hmm. The Plex app using native or "new" video player doesn't seem to have problems with 4k HDR. Amazon and Vudu don't have problems with 4k HDR/DV either.
Perhaps it's just the "little" guys that aren't privy to apple's changes.
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 21 Aug 2019, 21:18
by Everbrave
cosmoxl wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 15:11
I wouldn't count on a new beta fixing it. All other apps seem to work just fine still. MrMC seems to be the problem.
Beta 8 is out, is the issue persistent?
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 21 Aug 2019, 21:54
by cosmoxl
Everbrave wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 21:18
cosmoxl wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 15:11
I wouldn't count on a new beta fixing it. All other apps seem to work just fine still. MrMC seems to be the problem.
Beta 8 is out, is the issue persistent?
No, no tvOS 13 beta 8 yet from what I'm reading.
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 21 Aug 2019, 23:52
by sethx44
cosmoxl wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 18:36
sethx44 wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 18:20
cosmoxl wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 15:11
I wouldn't count on a new beta fixing it. All other apps seem to work just fine still. MrMC seems to be the problem.
infuse with the identical problem
Hmm. The Plex app using native or "new" video player doesn't seem to have problems with 4k HDR. Amazon and Vudu don't have problems with 4k HDR/DV either.
Perhaps it's just the "little" guys that aren't privy to apple's changes.
the problem exists only on remux, no problem on files reencoded with handbrake and a debit of 15Mb/s
tvos beta 8 only developer account.... have to wait 1 week
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 23 Aug 2019, 08:04
by MrSpidey
The same issue with the frame drops is happening on the latest official build 12.4 of tvOS and remux files. This is a relatively recent development. Playing these same files with VLC however, they seem to work perfectly, including the HDR colour.
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 23 Aug 2019, 14:14
by Everbrave
Everbrave wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 21:18
cosmoxl wrote: 21 Aug 2019, 15:11
I wouldn't count on a new beta fixing it. All other apps seem to work just fine still. MrMC seems to be the problem.
Beta 8 is out, is the issue persistent?
I returned back to my ATV 4K installations and made the following observations:
- tvOS Beta 8 is not yet available (I thought that it would be because iOS/iPadOS 13/watchOS6 beta 8 came out); so beta 7 is installed
- with only AVFoundations acceleration used, 4K HDR material playback fine on MrMC 3.9.1 (Mary Queen of Scots) but a little shaky with Video Toolbox Switches in, and a very smooth using the Plex client
- atmos Demo videos don’t playback at all on MrMC 3.9.1, it did on 3.9.0, so it seams something went wrong in the latest build !!!
- Plex client with the native player can pass through atmos (at least of the demo videos)
Conclusion: the Plex client 2.7 is more usable than MrMC 3.9.1 in its current state on tvOS 13 beta 7
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 24 Aug 2019, 16:43
by davilla
I retested 3.9.1 under 12.4 using libsmb2. No Issues seen, with 4K or atmos.
If there are issues seen under these conditions, please create a new thread for tracking. This thread regards tvOS beta 13.
In addition, a reminder that this is a MrMC forum. References to plex App are starting to get annoying. Stop it please. We know there is some issue the tvOS 13 beta, they will get resolved in due time.
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 24 Aug 2019, 17:02
by Everbrave
davilla wrote: 24 Aug 2019, 16:43
I retested 3.9.1 under 12.4 using libsmb2. No Issues seen, with 4K or atmos.
If there are issues seen under these conditions, please create a new thread for tracking. This thread regards tvOS beta 13.
In addition, a reminder that this is a MrMC forum. References to plex App are starting to get annoying. Stop it please. We know there is some issue the tvOS 13 beta, they will get resolved in due time.
OK, as far as I am concerned, I will not mention another player by name, in fact, I used to use the term “another player” for any but MrMC, if it annoyed you. My personal opinion is that it doesn’t harm to know what the completion is doing, but it’s your business and you know it better.
As for tvOS 13 beta, I was not reporting anything because I have installed tvOS 13, until you asked me explicitly to test a media file for you because I have tvOS 13 installed, only then I thought it could be of a help to you/amet. So, if I shouldn’t report from tvOS 13 please let me know, I can understand that.
Also, I can understand that you have a device with the beta installed to prepare for the release.
So, just let me know.
A reminder, I was replying for myself.
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 24 Aug 2019, 19:14
by davilla
Here's the issue about us installing tvOS beta 13 on our AppleTV4Ks.
1) tvOS beta 13 required xCode 11 (also in beta) for debug.
2) Installing tvOS beta 13 is a one way street on AppleTV4Ks. Once done, you cannot revert back to 12.4.
3) ITunes connect will refuse any submission for release if xcode beta is used to create it.
4) Having the release xcode and beta xcode installed on the same computer can cause issues as the clang compiler for non-xcode compiled code will be the beta one. So while one can compile MrMC using the beta xcode. Compiling depends for releases will use the wrong clang version. Which means getting ponked for a release.
It boils down to if I install xcode beta, my compile system is poisoned for releases. And that means, no 3.9.x releases until after tvOS 13 hits release.
So to test/debug on AppleTV4Ks, I'd have to setup another development system and get another AppleTV4K.
Re: TVOS BETA 13 6-> (constant lag / microstutter remux 4k)
Posted: 24 Aug 2019, 19:21
by Everbrave
davilla wrote: 24 Aug 2019, 19:14
Here's the issue about us installing tvOS beta 13 on our AppleTV4Ks.
1) tvOS beta 13 required xCode 11 (also in beta) for debug.
2) Installing tvOS beta 13 is a one way street on AppleTV4Ks. Once done, you cannot revert back to 12.4.
3) ITunes connect will refuse any submission for release if xcode beta is used to create it.
4) Having the release xcode and beta xcode installed on the same computer can cause issues as the clang compiler for non-xcode compiled code will be the beta one. So while one can compile MrMC using the beta xcode. Compiling depends for releases will use the wrong clang version. Which means getting ponked for a release.
It boils down to if I install xcode beta, my compile system is poisoned for releases. And that means, no 3.9.x releases until after tvOS 13 hits release.
So to test/debug on AppleTV4Ks, I'd have to setup another development system and get another AppleTV4K.
All clear, so I suggest those who have installed tvOS 13 beta on their ATV can report the issues, you collect the issues on a list for revision when your development installation is ready, is that OK for you?