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Re: Emby Integration

Post by timstephens24 » 20 Sep 2018, 17:03

Montoya wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 15:50
...but also because they lost some valuable TF testers for the Apple TV. Active Emby Apple TV TF participation is now low, compared to previous Emby Apple TV TF releases I participated in.
They don't put out very many updates to it, so it's not like there's a lot to participate in.

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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Montoya » 20 Sep 2018, 19:14

They never do many Emby TF client updates from the Apple TF app itself...

95% of all changes are done remotely, by the Emby TF app downloading scripts, modules, configs etc at client startup, from the Emby site itself. instead of changing the client itself with a Testflight release.

Current Emby Store release is 11.2MB and current Emby TF release is 30MB and those extra MB in Emby TF release is all because they put MPV as main player as extra in the Emby app and still most changes are done remotely, so TF users hardly notice it when changes are done when they don't follow Emby's TF topics.

Compared to MrMC, MrMC is 232,5MB and even with all the skins packaged in MrMC, you can calculate why MrMC plays everything you throw at it :)

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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Everbrave » 20 Sep 2018, 20:23

Montoya wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 19:14
They never do many Emby TF client updates from the Apple TF app itself...

95% of all changes are done remotely, by the Emby TF app downloading scripts, modules, configs etc at client startup, from the Emby site itself. instead of changing the client itself with a Testflight release.

Current Emby Store release is 11.2MB and current Emby TF release is 30MB and those extra MB in Emby TF release is all because they put MPV as main player as extra in the Emby app and still most changes are done remotely, so TF users hardly notice it when changes are done when they don't follow Emby's TF topics.

Compared to MrMC, MrMC is 232,5MB and even with all the skins packaged in MrMC, you can calculate why MrMC plays everything you throw at it :)
It is not an Emby forum, so in short, the Emby tvOS TF is not well managed, beginning by "What to test" and ending in the forum discussions (I rather spare the details). As for the size, the tvOS app is only a client, not comparable to MrMC which is a complete media centre package. In fact, the native player based app works quite well if you have a server running on some decent HW transcoding capabilities, e.g. Apollo Lake DS918+ with VA-API.

Back to the topic of this thread, MrMC has the potential of a "one-stop" app for tvOS if it puts more effort in the UI; it is not only the lacking skin support BTW, but also the principles of the UI but again this could be the topic of another thread :)
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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Everbrave » 20 Sep 2018, 20:29

Montoya wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 15:50
Everbrave wrote:
19 Sep 2018, 13:43
Emby is really a great server, can we hope for a sooner progress/improvement in this regard?
It comes when it comes, so no rush :D
Testflight 3.8.0 is still not up, so maybe we are getting some surprises and is Emby involved... or not ;)

Emby Dev's are also on a holiday pace, concerning their Apple TV Testflight app, just like I expected long time ago, but also because they lost some valuable TF testers for the Apple TV. Active Emby Apple TV TF participation is now low, compared to previous Emby Apple TV TF releases I participated in.
I can only tell you that I have side-loaded Kodi with EmbyCon and Embuary skin just as an Emby client ;)

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Re: Emby Integration

Post by vitalogic » 25 Dec 2018, 01:46

Everbrave wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 20:23

Back to the topic of this thread, MrMC has the potential of a "one-stop" app for tvOS if it puts more effort in the UI; it is not only the lacking skin support BTW, but also the principles of the UI but again this could be the topic of another thread :)
Yeah it's not to far away to as being that one-stop app, just need a few addition.

For Emby, it needs support to show 'next up' (or on deck for Plex) Also, secondary thing is to be able to browse the folder of Emby, especially boxsets, then an ability to show it in the home screen.

Other UI stuff I'd like to see is to show TV shows title in the home, not just the episodes title. One thing I noticed is that most of the times the poster/wide art doesn't show, so it's hard to tell what TV shows it corresponds to in the newly added section.

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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Everbrave » 26 Dec 2018, 12:17

vitalogic wrote:
25 Dec 2018, 01:46
Everbrave wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 20:23

Back to the topic of this thread, MrMC has the potential of a "one-stop" app for tvOS if it puts more effort in the UI; it is not only the lacking skin support BTW, but also the principles of the UI but again this could be the topic of another thread :)
Yeah it's not to far away to as being that one-stop app, just need a few addition.

For Emby, it needs support to show 'next up' (or on deck for Plex) Also, secondary thing is to be able to browse the folder of Emby, especially boxsets, then an ability to show it in the home screen.

Other UI stuff I'd like to see is to show TV shows title in the home, not just the episodes title. One thing I noticed is that most of the times the poster/wide art doesn't show, so it's hard to tell what TV shows it corresponds to in the newly added section.
I’m sure the developers know exactly what is needed but, as previously stated by them, it is not on high on their priority list because their aren’t many MrMC users who need Emby; a Poll can be helpful in assessing that.

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Re: Emby Integration

Post by timstephens24 » 26 Dec 2018, 13:00

I do have an issue with Emby on the recent release (still don't really use Emby but testing out my options). In my 'Movies' section I have two folders, 1080p and 4K, and on the home screen with Ariana there's two blank spots labeled '1080p' and '4K'. They both link to nothing but show up as where the 'Continue Watching' stuff would be.
Everbrave wrote:
26 Dec 2018, 12:17
a Poll can be helpful in assessing that.
Polls aren't very helpful since it's only people that come to the forums (a small amount of users) and the amount of users that do come to the forums generally won't vote.
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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Montoya » 26 Dec 2018, 13:41

Currently testing Kodi again with Embuary Skin and Emby addon.

I’m impressed with PVR (DVBLink, TVMosaic) options in Embuary Skin, with OSD when watching Live TV. Would love same functionality in MrMC when possible.
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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Everbrave » 27 Dec 2018, 00:33

timstephens24 wrote:
26 Dec 2018, 13:00
I do have an issue with Emby on the recent release (still don't really use Emby but testing out my options). In my 'Movies' section I have two folders, 1080p and 4K, and on the home screen with Ariana there's two blank spots labeled '1080p' and '4K'. They both link to nothing but show up as where the 'Continue Watching' stuff would be.
Everbrave wrote:
26 Dec 2018, 12:17
a Poll can be helpful in assessing that.
Polls aren't very helpful since it's only people that come to the forums (a small amount of users) and the amount of users that do come to the forums generally won't vote.
Yes, this is exactly the case with Emby server integration, MrMC doesn’t seem to point to the correct point in the Emby DB and it is with all skins, so it isn’t an Ariana issue.

Regarding Polls, you might be right but I don’t know how else to bring Emby higher on the priority list of the developers.

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Re: Emby Integration

Post by Everbrave » 27 Dec 2018, 00:39

Montoya wrote:
26 Dec 2018, 13:41
Currently testing Kodi again with Embuary Skin and Emby addon.

I’m impressed with PVR (DVBLink, TVMosaic) options in Embuary Skin, with OSD when watching Live TV. Would love same functionality in MrMC when possible.
I have Kodi side-loaded with Embuary skin and EmbyCon for the sole purpose of Emby client and it is fantastic; a really great skin and clean, fast access to Emby server without using extra storage space.
Kodi, Embuary, EmbyCon and you are set in few minutes!

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